The Sailplane Homebuilders Workshop: The Flying Wing
| Soaring Museum Thursday July 17 | Homebuilders Sailplane Workshop Friday July 18-20 |
| Hotels | Workshop Cost |
| Volunteers list | Gary Osoba at last years flyin |
| Rides to Harris Hill | Working with the FAA |
| Banquet | Breakfast and Lunch |
At the National Soaring Museum, Harris Hill, New York, Friday July 18th to Sunday July 20th 1997. This workshop will be preceded by the flying wing symposium at the National Soaring Museum on Thursday July 17th.
Invited speakers include Paul MacCready, Jack Lambie, Jim Marske, Al Backstrom, Jan Scott , Gary Osoba to name just a few. Jim Markse will fly the Monarch . Mike Hostage will fly the Pioneer!!
Begins 9 am and theSymposium is free with admission to the Museum.
Tentative Speakers and Workshops for the Sailplane Workshop: Friday July 18-20
Things are still tentative and Please add your name to my list.(email below)
Tentative Schedule:
Friday at5 pm Mike hostage will show his Pioneer in the Harris Hill Hangar.
Saturday at 5 pm Mike Waters and Woody Jones will show the Michel Wing and the new Monarch.
| 8-9 | 9-10 | 10-11 | 11-12 | 12-1 | 1-2 | 2-3 | 3-4 | |
| Thursday Flying Wing Symposium |
Jan Scott on the Horton Wings | 9:50-10:35 Flying the Horton IV with Rudolf Opitz 10:45 Evaluation tests of the horton IV and flights with the KasperRKB with Dez George Falvy |
11:30 An Overview of Flying Wing Design Issues- Al Bowers | The Future of Natural and Technological Flying wings -Paul MacCready 1:45 The Flying Wings of Fauvel- Jack Lambie |
2:30 The EPB-1 series of Sailplanes and subsequent development.-Al Backstrom 3:25 The Flying wings of Don Mitchel- Bob Chase. |
4:10 The Revelation of the Genesis -Jim Marske
4:00 to 5:30PM SHA Workshop registration |
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| Friday SHA Workshop |
registration at the museum |
Workshop Ed Moores Community RM 9:15 Introduction by Jim Swinnich
9:45 Speakers introduced by Geoff Steele |
Al Backstrom "The basics of Tail-less design Community RM |
Steve Arnt and building techniques used in the carbon dragon Community room |
Jack Lambie book signing at the cafe Community Room. Lunch at the SHA cafe |
Jack Lambie working with Carbon Community room |
Paul MacCready Close in far Frontiers of unusual flight Community room |
Howie Trampaneau on construction of a propellor |
| Saturday SHA Workshop |
Bruce Carmichael Elementary Aerodynamics Community room |
Woody Jones on Ultralights and Sailpanes; good bed partners? Community room |
Mosher Braner GPS on the Cheap; Administration office |
Rib Making Demo using a shaped template and Router by Don Boardman Restoration workshop |
Lunch at the SHA cafe |
Al McCarty and Dave Hudnut working with Aluminum |
Jim Marske Building workshop Restoration workshop |
Jim Marske Building workshop till 5 pm |
| Sunday SHA Workshop |
Dave Middleton fuselage molding. Restoration workshop. Sample instrument pod as a demo. |
Jeff Snyder On Mitchel wings, Carbon Dragons and ARAC. An informal discussion | Dave Wells lofting with aluminum. Community Room |
Mat Redsell Windrose . Harris Hill Hangar
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Lunch at the SHA cafe | SHA Meeting | Flying |
A two hour building workshop with Jim Marske for those who purchase a rib or spar kit, auditors welcome. Saturday?
Rib Demo using a shaped template and Router by Don Boardman, confirmed May 20, 1997.
GPS on the cheap with Moshe Braner
Al McCarty and Dave Hudnut working with Aluminum
Dave Middleton fuselage molding.Confirmed May 20, 1997
Jeff Synder and the Mitchel wing construction
Jack Lambie and working with Carbon.
Paul MacCready talking on "Close in far Frontiers of unusual flight".
Bruce Carmichael on elementary aerodynamics
Dave Wells lofting with aluminum.
Steve Arnt and building techniques used in the carbon dragon
Al Backstom will speak Friday on :The Basics of tail-less design". confirmed May 20/97
Mat Redsell on building the Windrose; He will have his almost completed windrose at the workshop
Howie Trampaneau on construction of a propellor
Other Speakers welcome, especially on building the Monarch and Woodstock.
And a number of displays from various suppliers of building materials as well as videos.
There will be demonstrations of building in Glass, Metal and Wood and the highlight of this workhop will be the hands on construction of a sample spar and wind rib kits as designed by Jim Marske.
Cost of the Spar kit is $30 and the wing rib $18. Checks should be made out to Jim Marske and sent to: 975 Loire Valley Drive, Marion, OH., 43302 for the kits.
The Museum has a few examples of flying wings, noteably the Monarch by Jim Marske, the flying plank by Al Backstrom and an example of the modern hanglider built by Robert Trampeneau. More are expected.
| Pre registration | At the Door | One day | |
| Non member of SHA,SSA | $25 | $30 | $12 |
| member of SHA or SSA | $23 | $27 | $10 |
| Member of SHA and SSA | $20 | $25 | $8 |
| Student member SHA | $5 | $7 | $4 |
| Family member of SHA member | free | free | free |
Members of VSA get $2 DISCOUNT ON REGISTRATION
Fully Catered Saturday Banquet is $20 pre-registered $25 at the door. Guest Speaker for the Banquet is Jim Marske.
Hors d'Oeurves -seasoned Cheese Crock with Crackers
Dinner:
Tossed Garden Salad with seasonal Mixed greens, Vinaigrette Dressing
Bread Basket
Breast of Chicken with Plum sauce
Jacketed New Potatoes with Parsely butter
Fresh Seasonal Vegetable
Cream Cheese Carrot Cake
Coffee, Decaffinated Coffee, Tea, Iced Tea.
6:30 pm Cash Bar opens
7:15 pm Banquet begins, Welcome note by Jaye Fish , National Soaring Museum, Director of Development.
8: pm Guest Guest Speaker, Jim Marske introduced by Jaye Fish
Door Prizes from FibreGlast and PolyFiber (thanks to Marty Hammersmith!) given out at the banquet.
More Door Prizes July 14, 1997: Sandpaper from John's Shop see them on display in the Cafe!
Pre-registration is by check made payable to SHA
send to: SHA97 c/o Mat Redsell, P.O. box 327, Hammondsport, NY, 14840.
This is a well situated airport that has a large well maintained park with many recreational facilities including swiming, golf, etc.Camping is available for $3 per night.
Lunch and Breakfast served: 7-8 am at the Museum Cafe: Friday, Saturday and Sunday :buy tickets at registration
Breakfast: $5.50 Bagel or Muffin; fresh fruit cup, juice, coffee or tea.
Lunch$6.50 Ham or Turkey on Kaiser, Sliced Cheese, Lettuce and Tomato, Chips and pickle, cookie, Fruit punch.
Rides: Lincoln Ross <lincolnr@ma.ultranet.com> phone 617 891 0332 asks about a ride from the Boston Area.
Either share a plane or car.
Hotels:I do not personally know any of the hotels so phone ahead and make sure they are not too far from Harris Hill
Note from jim Swinnich from the Soaring Museum. May 28th /97
I noticed on your hotel list, that the one main hotel we always recommend is not there - Econo Lodge right at Exit 51 off Route 17. That is by far the closest one to the NSM. Their number is 607-739-2000 (see below). Three others that are the next closest are Howard Johnson’s 607-739-5636; Huck Finn (they changed their name, but I can’t remember what it is now) 607-739-3807; and El Monte (This one is a very small place, but would be the cheapest) 607-739-5611.
Econolodge at exit 51 off route 17-single about $59 with tax, double $73 with tax, Phone soon as this books very quickly
ECONOLODGE - Corning, NY 1-800-424-4777, Robert Dann RD -$49 per night first night, $54 on the weekend.
COMFORT INN -Corning, NY 1-800-424-4777; $85
DAYS INN -Corning, NY 1-800-329-7466
HOLIDAY INN - Elmira, NY & Horseheads, NY 1-800-465-4329
BEST WESTERN - Horseheads, NY 1-800-528-1234
MOTEL 6 - Horseheads, NY 1-505-891-6161
RAMADA INN - Ithaca, NY 1-800-228-2828
SUPER 8 - Corning, NY / Painted Post, NY 1-800-800-8000
Coachman Motor Lodge, Elmira 607-733-5526, south end of elmira, 5 miles from Harris Hill, $50
Evergreen Motel Elmira 1-800-427-8714,
Radisson Hotel Corning 607-962-5000, about 20 minutes away
Fairfield Inn Corning, 607-937-9600, $70 per nite
Jerry Nolan will be staying at a Hotel and will need a ride -please contact us if you are at a hotel.
SHA Volunteers list (needed to do): as of June 28,1997
Take in registrations the day of the workshop: two volunteers needed
Kit building literature:1) Advanced soaring: 2) - volunteer needed -other suggestions welcome
Introduce speakers: Day 1-Geoff Steel , day 2-<volunteer needed >, day 3 <volunteer needed >
Get Sample building materials from:
1)Wicks Aircraft-Art Mancini hasobtained about 20 samples of fiberglass, Metal Cutoffs, one composite kit for either demo or door prize and three videos: 1) welding 2) composite buidling and 3) unsure.
2) Aircraft spruce - Art Mancini says he will also get materials from aircraft spruce as well.
?? 3)Leading Edge Airfoils- ?
4) Poly -fiber
5)Superflite cover and finish materials
6)other-?
Get Sample videos for showing at coffee area:
1)
Lincoln Ross
-video of the Ultralight hang glider "the Swift" from Brightstar
2)Marty Hammersmith- EAA videos, FiberGlast (composite wet layup and mold building)
and maybe one from PolyFibre, and one from Ray Stits on covering.
We will have a swap shop in the Coffee shop; need someone just to take stuff, ;put a name on it with lowest bid and them have people list their bids below. Have a time for the swap to take place,10% goes to the SHA at the end.
Chef, organizer, food buyer etc. for a Friday night Barbecue. ??-
Banquet MC, introduce Jim Marske, guest speaker after the dinner, make sure everything rolls smoothly. Banquet is already arranged at the national soaring musuem, just a matter of checking and making sure everything happens.- Jaye Fish, Program development from the Soaring Museum.
Camping director: Have a few signs and instructions for camping on the day of the arrival, map of shower location etc. probably starting thursday the 17th.-
| Gary Osoba before one of his 5 hour flights at Harris Hill 1996. It made a great impression on many of us with the nearing 100 fpm sink rate coming into reality that it may be possible to stay up all day in marginal conditions. | |
Links: Flying Wing Home page
Working with the FAA still has many difficulties despite the more friendly atmostphere they have been promising. I had researched the basic problems of an ultralight in the elmira airspace and was assured through the controller that she had no reason not to allow the use of an ultralight sailplane at Harris Hill. I rechecked with the FAA in Rochester and they confirmed it. But of course it could not be put in writing. I have researched numerous other rulings with positive results but nothing on paper. I had proposed aerotowing an ultralight and the FAA in Rochester (Pat O neil) could not find a ruling on it and I presumed it was then OK to aero tow.
As of June 17th or abouts Tony James was made aware of our planned activities and promptly told Mony Sullivan, a prominent board member of Harris hill that ultralights where not allowed in the Elmira Airspace. He then informed the president of the Club and from that spread the word that ultralights had been banned. BUT phoning the tower confirms no such thing and Kammie, the controller assures me that there is no reason not to allow the use of an ultralight at Harris hill with prior authorization..
June 25, 97 After a lot of confusion which I believe was due to the fact that Tony James made an error at first by telling me that ultralights where not allowed at harris hill we have arrived at what I believe to be correct. We can indeed fly an ultrallight in the Elmira airspace with prior permission but we cannot aero-tow it . The USHGA has an exemption for doing this and it could be applied in this situation but the paper work involved is not worth the hassle with the Workshop so close.I have let the matter of air towing ultralights be shelved. I do intend to pursue the matter at a later date since I believe this to be the safest method of getting light sailplanes in the air.
A number of persons asked why don't I just put an N number on the ultralight? Then we must get an N numbered ultralight to tow...... and the problems keep mounting. I'm going to forward my questions to the EAA which will be more receptive than going directly to the FAA.
Mr. Bob Lynch FAA at the New York City Branch confirmed the ruling that ultralights cannot be towed but he was unaware of the Hang gliding exemption.. I read the ruling and did not see how it was interpreted in that fashion...but that was his ruling. Surprisingly no-one has asked why I want to do it or suggest alternatives.
I'm sure that if Tony James FAA had taken an interest in the happenings at Harris Hill there could have been some exemption or at least I could have been helped through the endless rules and regulations that govern unregulated aircraft part 103.
Working with the rules of the FAA is an endless battle and a big waste of time: I advise persons to avoid any potential conflict with the FAA and pursue questions by first going to an organization like the EAA.
Working with The board of directors at Harris Hill:
Most of the board members are willing to give thought to any reasonable proposal but the ensuing rules and regulations particularly around every form of insurance is mind boggling. I would consider some form of liability insurance a reasonable request but then it somehow gets into other matters of who is responsible if there was an accident and if Harris hill's insurance allows such stuff etc. In this case it pays to have friends in high places. If you are like me and slightly unpopular then its an uphill battle all the way. It was one fairy tale retrieve after another and when I finally had seemed to crossed all the rivers and find the gold pot, it was all taken away. Basically if it's not to do with competition flying, chances are the hoops you will jump through are many. In the club are a few very fine members...Howie Trampeneau, Dave Wells and Clarence See are a few that have helped immensely in getting anything to do with the SHA happening at Harris Hill. Through the course of working with the board I have decided to resign from the club and persue my building with a possible interest in soaring elsewhere. The future of soaring is not at Harris Hill. At the moment Harris Hill is an enclave of those wanting to promote competition flying and actively discourage anything else that does not involve high wing loading, expensive Glass ships.